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发表于 2022-10-31 02:20:22
崇祯五年十二月,西湖这一场大雪,就这样下了四百年。
这句话,叫人怎能不忧伤。
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发表于 2022-11-2 21:55:26
母上又在焦虑我们兄妹三都是光棍的问题
我就跟她说,过阵子去找我们学院那位辅导员老乡,问问他有没有对象……
母上机智地说,你可以把人家约出来吃饭啊
当然,以前我从来没想过约人家吃饭的事,但主要的是,我下不不去手。
因为,人家长得不够好看。
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发表于 2022-11-3 17:56:31
我的一位现就职于华南师大的同窗,现在已经是教授了……
而我,在阜师连讲师都不是……
幸好我心态好=。=
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发表于 2022-11-3 20:31:54
马克一下,这个知识点以前没有关注过。
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发表于 2022-11-4 19:40:02
发件人:万驰
日期:2022年11月4日 15:39
主题:Re:徐新月 关于上午的讨论
收件人:xuxinyue091
新月,你观察到的这些事实确实如此,《告别功利》《优秀的绵羊》这些书要批判的高等教育(尤其是精英大学),越来越不再关注人文学科和艺术的教育,而学生呢,越来越成为钱理群老师批判的“精致的利己主义者”。美国的人文学科和艺术现在萎缩的情况很严重,很多学习这些学科的博士甚至很难在大学里找到相应的教职,他们博士毕业后很多都改行了;学校在招生的时候,也会考虑市场需求削减招生计划。在咱们中国,虽然有一些精英大学也尝试建立博雅教育课程,但市场需求同样不高,学习人文学科、艺术专业的毕业生,比较好的出路可能就是教师和公务员了。这些“稳定”的职业受到人们的认可,可能也是中国人文学科没有完全被取消的原因之一(另外的重要原因可能是国家的干预)。中国当前包括学者、也包括一些中小学教师、出版界人士,尝试在本土复兴人文学科,有的课程也会受到商业界的欢迎。前阵子我看到浙江大学组织了“生命哲学”的系列培训课程,邀请了国内哲学界重要的师资,这个课程班收费标准也很高,但还是挺受欢迎。这和你提出的面向那些“不需要找工作”的人们提供人文教育的思路是一致的,也是人文教育市场化的很好的实验。
说到国内当前人文教育的危机,上世纪九十年代爆发过一场“人文精神大讨论”,因为改革开放,中国开始步入市场经济时代。市场经济是不是一定意味着人文精神失落?这个问题当时引起很大的争议,从今天来看,我们可能依然没有得到一个答案。但是现在这样问题的讨论,已经“翻不出浪花”了。现在这个时代比起八九十年代,经济水平更高,人们的物质生活按说更好了,但现在人们不再那么关心“人文精神是否在衰落”这样在当时引起巨大反响的议题了。
你提到了一个非常有意义的建议,认为可以让那些包括政治家、在这个社会结构中掌握权力的人去接受人文教育。这个思路非常好,实际上中西教育传统都非常注重领导者的培养,认为他们需要掌握一定的人文知识、良好的思维品质和审美品味。我很赞同你说的这一点。此外,我个人认为在一个民主制国家,人文教育除了要面向精英,还需要面向所有的人,如果普通人无法通过人文学科发展出良好的个性、批判性能力、创造力、同情他人处境的能力,那么这个民主国家是架空的,它的民主只是少数人的民主,普通人只是被统治、被规训的对象,就会像工蚁一样只忙碌着生存,他们不能成为你所说的“健全的公民”。当然,我们也不能强迫所有人都一定要在大学接受人文学科的教育,这里只是设想下这种教育机会是面向所有人的。
有的时候我们在构想职业教育的必要性,可能会侧重考虑学生的生计问题。这是一个非常现实的考虑。但在职业教育的过程中,可能会剥夺了学生学习那些“无用”的人文学科的内在需求。这让我想到曾经有人说,虽然他小时候生活非常贫苦,但他依然希望能读人文方面的书籍,这些书籍照亮了他晦暗的童年时光。还有人说哪怕是读文学,他也不想因为自己是农家子弟,就只能欣赏赵树理的乡土小说,他同样对西方的现代文学产生渴求。这些声音,会让我经常在思考,最重要的是提供所有人可以选择的机会,而不是强制进入某个通道,这可能就是公平的体现。
很开心和你聊天。你说的一点是对的,虽然读书能和作者有一场跨越时空的交流,但从文本中回到现实生活中之后,还是会有孤独感。所以读书后交流是非常棒的体验。谢谢新月~
在 2022-11-04 13:33:44,"xuxinyue0910" 写道: 今天上午您说的《告别功利》这本书里面强调人文学科教育、道德,批评一些大学过于注重功利孝义,让我联想到《优秀的绵羊》里作者对精英教育的批评,这些说法就像当今社会更重视理科方面的教育,而不是文科。我注意到虽然大多数教育都在偏向经济效益,创新的培养,但还是有一些关于人文学科的呼声,比如说我上学期英语书里一篇文章就在讲 人文学科过时了吗?他也注意到人们对职业的追求,学习上怀有功利性目的。我个人感觉这难以避免,在如今社会环境下,就比如我的高中,大学的课程几乎都是关于文科的学习,虽然我学习了文科的知识,但是我还是会在选专业时偏向就业情况,甚至还有些同学会说上大学就是为了文凭,为了就业。虽然学生学习了人文学科的课程和知识,但是学生的思想上还是会被社会主流的观念影响,我想如果我们想改变,可能应该先让那些政治家,生产家……就各领域的有权力的人们在学生时期就培养好人文方面的思想品质,或者在如今学生的学习中尤其是占多数的理科生真正的接受人文学科的教育,这样也许会更有效果。我觉得想要减轻这种倾向,培养一个更健全的公民,可能在未来的这样一种社会里出现,也就是人们不需要为找工作,为就业发愁,不需要追求那么多的财富,这个时候大家可能会心安理得地学习人文和艺术,不过这个时期的到来会不会太远了,那这期间人文学科的发展该处于何地呢……
这些想法主要是想和老师您交流诉说啦,还有就是老师您说的《课程》《告别功利》都比较专业,你是怎么看得下去的啊,我表示如果不是你提到了,我可能都不会想翻。(不过这些书是容易引发思考的,如果一个人看可能会无聊,如果有更多的交流后感觉明显就不一样了)
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发表于 2022-11-4 19:40:58
新月好!
精英确实像你母亲和邻里所认为的那样,他们掌握着大量的资源,可以通过权力关系网络实行自上而下的改革。不过我们会认为改革的路径不止这一种,也可以是自下而上。现在的教育改革(包括教育管理制度和教育经费的分配),愈发重视从最小单元实行改革或者说尊重底层的力量。你提到的五四、毛泽东,就是知识分子联合工人和农民建设一个新的社会和国家,这类知识分子确实了不起。现在西方依然有一批批判政府的马克思主义者,十分敬佩中国的五四精神和毛泽东的成就。
关于我们所处的时代——当代一切变得都太快了,学术界已经很难统一使用某个概念来表述现代这个时代的特征,加速度、信息社会、消费主义、元宇宙、生态不正义、病毒……这似乎是个生机勃勃的世界,但又似乎是全面危机的世界。如果搞钱具有道德价值的话,那么搞钱不会遭到批判——因为搞钱意味着发展经济,让人类都过上更好的物质生活,勤劳地工作也是一个人符合道德要求的表现。但如果搞钱牺牲了其他的原则,比如人们购买商品不再是因为生活需要,而是陷入无止境的消费欲望;或者为了要搞钱就大肆掠夺自然资源,掀起国际战争,那么这些搞钱行为就是不道德的。
确实如你所说,现在信息的刺激太直接、全面了,手机和互联网让人类和世界似乎都不再有隐私,只要人们还有猎奇心理,那就可以通过非常便利的渠道得到相关的信息,甚至不需要去辨认信息是否可靠。这是网络世界的狂欢。
大家是否更想用平静的方式来作出改变?这个问题我还不知道。不过确实能感觉到和60年代出生的那一代知识分子而言,我们这一代确实更加倦怠,前辈的理想主义在今日来看,已经不合时宜了。
在 2022-11-04 17:47:11,"xuxinyue0910" 写道:
老师居然理解了我后面的意思,开心耶,我也反思了一下关于我的那个不太民主的提议,其实要不是你这么说我都没意识到我有这思想,我的潜意识里认为普通民众的话语权不高,就算有一些好的想法也难以实现或者影响大多数人,而那些少数精英实则可以通过转变思想再来改变行动,领导大家一起向善向美。这种想法主要来自我的母亲对的影响(当然还有社会生活中邻里的言语中透露的价值判断等),她对政府里的工作人员的敬畏态度,这个词可能用得不太对,就是说她认为联系那些有权有势的人必须要有关系,没有关系就很难说成,或者说他们不会重视和解决。这种想法会让我也认为人们更重视上级的决策和看重他们的行动,至于我们普通人,影响甚小。您所说的民主还让我联想到了五四运动,毛泽东等事件和人物,现在一想还真是佩服他们的民主思想,他们的胆量,他们能靠自己和激起民众的力量使社会潮流发生一定的改变。
所以我觉得 让人文教育面相所有人 确实更全面。
看到您所说的国内国外的关于人文教育情况,我也增长了一些见识,您所说的“经济水平更高,人们的物质生活按说更好了,但现在人们不再那么关心“人文精神是否在衰落”这样在当时引起巨大反响的议题了”这个确实是个疑惑的地方,可能现在的人们都在励志于搞钱?人们所面对的文化信息太丰富占据了人们的对人文的鉴别?又或者大家更想以一种平静的方式来做出改变?
最后,和您交流心态上是轻松的,内容上不那么轻松,有点听君一席话,胜读十年书的意味,或者说开智?嗯,我去吃饭了,拜拜!
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发表于 2022-11-4 19:43:38
这位同学给我发的邮件越来越认真了。上课快结束时我会问一下大家有没有问题可以拿出来交流,学生们都挺羞涩,没人吭声。课后这位徐同学就悄咪咪地在午休时间给我发邮件了……
不过给学生回邮件,比上课更有激情啊。一来一回。不像上课,是对着沉默的观众表演一个不好笑的把戏……
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发表于 2022-11-5 00:25:47
Amos Bronson Alcott (1799–1888)
BiographyAmos Bronson Alcott
Born in 1799 to an illiterate flax farmer in Wolcott, Connecticut, Amos Bronson Alcott was singular among the Transcendentalists in his unassailable optimism and the extent of his self-education. With the encouragement of his spirited and resourceful mother, he taught himself to read and write by forming letters in charcoal on the kitchen floorboards. Profoundly influenced by John Bunyan's book, Pilgrim's Progress, Bronson left home at the age of seventeen to become a peddler in Virginia and the Carolinas. Through the sheer force of his personality, he charmed prosperous Southern families into opening their doors, and thus was introduced to an aesthetic and elegance that inspired him for the rest of his life. After five years, he returned to Connecticut, determined to become an educator. Attracted to Pestalozzi's innovative child-centered educational ideas, he soon began a long and varied career as a teacher.
In 1830, Bronson married Abigail May, the descendent of a prominent Boston family. Abba was a reform-minded woman of remarkable intellect and passionate temperament. Together, they had four daughters and one son who died soon after he was born. His second daughter, Louisa, became a world-famous writer, and his youngest daughter, May, was a critically acclaimed artist.
Bronson Alcott was singular among the Transcendentalists in boldly embodying his ideals. In his schools he introduced art, music, nature study, field trips, and physical education into the curriculum, while banishing corporal punishment. He encouraged children to ask questions and taught through dialogue and example. His daughter, Louisa, wrote of his methods: "My father taught in the wise way which unfolds what lies in the child's nature, as a flower blooms, rather than crammed it, like a Strasbourg goose, with more than it could digest." Because his ideas were radically innovative, many parents did not understand the value of Alcott's methods and his schools often failed. For this reason, the Alcotts moved more than 20 times in the first thirty years of their marriage.
Believing that the key to social reform and spiritual growth lay in the crucible of the family, Alcott instilled the values of self-reliance, self-sacrifice, and charity in his children from an early age. He promoted self-expression by nurturing his daughters' individual talents and encouraging them to keep journals. These journals were shared with other family members to foster openness of thought and feeling.
When Ralph Waldo Emerson met Alcott in Boston in the late 1830's, he was so impressed with his intellect and innovative ideas that he convinced him to move to Concord and join his circle of friends. There, Alcott turned to farming, lecturing, and writing to support his family, but his efforts were limited in their effectiveness. A few years later, with his English Transcendental friend, Charles Lane, Bronson founded the short-lived experimental Utopian community, Fruitlands, in Harvard, Massachusetts. The community's attempt to establish a "consociate family" and pursue an idealistic, agrarian lifestyle which would deprive no animal or human of life, liberty, or property, was sabotaged by ill-considered timing and a lack of established rules and procedures. Following the failure of the Fruitlands endeavor, Alcott sank briefly into the one interlude of despondency in his otherwise confidently optimistic life.
Alcott's ideas were instrumental in forming Emerson's thought as recorded in the transcendental seminal work, Nature. Alcott was an early admirer of Thoreau's reasoned philosophy of civil disobedience, and acted upon those principles several years before Thoreau did. He embraced a more broader conception of truth than his friends, asserting that true genius encompassed intellect, nature, and society.
Alcott was an inveterate talker, and loved leading "Conversations," free-flowing discussions on selected topics. Because his conversations lacked systematic thought or continuity, participants were sometimes disappointed at the lack of direction. Yet Alcott was, typically, undaunted. "All the beauty and advantages of Conversation," he wrote, "is in its bold contrasts, and swift surprises... Prose and logic are out of place, where all is flowing, magical, and free."
In his later years, Alcott traveled throughout the Midwest on lecture tours, where he finally achieved recognition for his ideas on education and transcendentalism. During the Civil War, he served as Superintendent of Schools in Concord, and in 1879, thanks to the financial support of his admirers, he was able to achieve a lifelong dream and founded the Concord School of Philosophy. One of the first summer schools for adults, the School of Philosophy continued for nine years and drew people from all over the United States.
Alcott outlived his closest transcendentalist friends, dying on March 4, 1888, two days before his famous daughter, Louisa, succumbed to the long-term effects of mercury poisoning. The Concord School of Philosophy closed in July of that year after holding a memorial service honoring Alcott.
Amy Belding Brown
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发表于 2022-11-5 00:38:58
https://www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/cambridge-harvard/a-bronson-alcott/
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发表于 2022-11-5 00:49:16
刚看到学生的邮件,已经称呼我为“我亲爱的万老师”……艾玛,羞涩